but unlike bill clinton, they don't have relationships. boehner was there sunday night for the congressional christmas party. there was no conversation even monday night. i don't understand that. >> andrea, it's just bizarre, isn't it? i have seen the worst political enemies get together at events like that, shake hands, talk, commiserate about how tough -- i mean, i've never seen -- i have never seen washington like this, and i was here in the '90s when it was really, really ugly. >> you saw impeachment. you saw other things going on. >> bill clinton and newt gingrich had a personal conversation. both of them told me on the day bill clinton was being impeached, they were talking about iraq. they were talking about other personal things. they were saying, we're going to get through this. and when we get through this, we've got a lot of bigger things to work. that doesn't happen, does it, andrea? >> during impeachment, bill clinton was having people to camp david and talking to people who were putting him on trial in the senate. there is a